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Scientology Trial in France: Can a Religion Be Banned?

Bruce Crumley
Posted: May 29, 2009.

Print: Time

Alain Rosenberg

As a fiercely secular nation, France has always had an awkward relationship with religious groups. Officials often find themselves struggling to strike the delicate balance between maintaining church-state separation and honoring the right of citizens to express their faith. But in the current case against the U.S.-based Church of Scientology, authorities have abandoned their usual attempts at fine-tuning religion’s standing in French society — instead, they want to ban Scientology from France altogether.

In a long-awaited trial that opened this week, French prosecutors are charging Scientology’s French affiliate with organized fraud. Six of Scientology’s top French officials are defendants in the case that began May 25. When investigating magistrate Jean-Christophe Hullin filed the findings of a nine-year inquiry with prosecutors, he described Scientology as “first and foremost a commercial business” whose interactions with followers are defined by “a real obsession for financial remuneration.” The church’s bookstores and celebrity center were described by Hullin’s investigation as instrumental in ensnaring psychologically fragile people “with the goal of seizing their fortune by exerting a psychological hold.” (See pictures of Paris.)

If found guilty, the defendants would face fines and possible prison time. But a conviction would also allow French authorities to designate Scientology as a criminal organization conceived to fleece its followers, which would lead to the banning of the religion in France. That exceptional measure would force Scientology out of the country — or underground, along with outlawed practices like Satanism. Given that Scientology has 8 million members worldwide, that strikes some observers are extreme.

After two of the four original plaintiffs agreed to settle out of court, the case now centers on charges by two women who say they were preyed upon by the organization. On Tuesday, Aude-Claire Malton, a hotel employee who makes $1,620 a month, told the court that once she’d agreed to accept the treatment the Scientology “auditors” had prescribed to remedy her spiritual imperfections, she found herself facing a $27,000 bill within two months. The second plaintiff claims she was forced by her Scientologist boss to undergo spiritual auditing in 1998 and was fired when she refused to accept similarly expensive treatment.

Scientology officials in France have denied the allegations, saying the two women — like all Scientology members — were free to participate in or walk away from treatment and other church activities as they pleased. They and their lawyers also point to what they say is a history of official French hostility to their movement — including its inclusion in a 1996 government list of dangerous cults. As contrast to the organization’s ostracism in France, Scientology leaders note that their church has the same status as a legitimate religion in Spain, Slovenia and Hungary as it has in the U.S. and Canada. “This is a trial for heresy,” said the Church of Scientology’s spokeswoman in France, Danièle Gounord, who added that the organization has been relentlessly “hounded” by a French establishment intolerant of the unconventional beliefs of Scientologists.

Though allegations that Scientology bleeds members dry is neither new nor limited to France, some outside observers may agree with Gounord’s claims of French intolerance toward religion. France’s 1996 list of dangerous cults, for example, contains 172 groups, including Jehovah’s Witnesses, Hare Krishnas, the Worldwide Church of God, the Unification Church and even transcendental meditationists — all of whom have largely shed their cult status in the U.S. and the U.K.

Some also charge that religious intolerance was behind France’s infamous 2004 law banning students from wearing “ostensible religious objects” in public schools — a prohibition designed mainly to eliminate the small but slowly growing number of Muslim headscarves in classrooms. As it did when France issued its dangerous-cults list, the U.S. government officially responded to the law banning religious objects with a request that Paris make greater efforts to respect religious freedoms. (Read “‘Veil Wars’ Reveal Europe’s Intolerance.”)

Though Washington has stayed quiet about the current trial, France has carefully positioned the case to withstand charges that it is intruding in matters of faith. As in the five previous cases France brought against Scientologists, prosecutors are focusing on charges and evidence of the organization’s manipulating members to wring money out of them — not on any of the spiritual beliefs or practices that may be involved. The first time that happened, in 1978, a Paris court found Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard guilty of vulgar fraud. In 1997, a Lyon court convicted five Scientology officials of similar charges, which were linked to the suicide of a debt-ridden church member. That verdict came with fines and a suspended prison sentence.

In this trial, which is expected to last until mid-June, prosecutors are likewise trying to portray Scientology as merely a large-scale scam while ignoring the organization’s religious conceits. Now a country that constantly wrestles with the separation of church and state will find out just how far it’s willing to go to keep the two apart.

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I don’t see how it matters whether Scientology is a religion. Would the Mafia be exempt from prosecution if they declared themselves a church? What matters is whether Scientology did anything illegal. Whether they are a religion or not doesn’t matter at all.

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2. Skydromakk

I can testify to the fact that France is strongly secular. I was surprised there even was a headquarters for scientology in the first place to be honest. I’m happy France is doing something about it.

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Another prime example that on matter what kind of dangerous group you are and how illegal your activities may be, if you declare yourself religious, you may still demand unwarranted respect without feeling ashamed for doing so. That it’s even debated whether or not it is ‘intolerant’ to investigate the crimes of any religious group, charge and convict them appropriately, or refuse special treatment is a shame.

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4. Dolores Lear

“The Language Of God”  by Francis S. Collins.  A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief.

The author was raised by Atheist Parents.  But in his work on Genomes, he found God.

Pg. 50. “Doubt is an unavoidable part of belief.  In the words of Paul Tillich, “doubt isn’t the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith.”  If the case in favor of belief in God were utterly airtight, then the world would be full of confident practitioners of a single faith.  But imagine such a world, where the opportunity to make a free choice about belief was taken away by the certainty of the evidence.  How interesting would that be?”

Me:
For me, free choice about belief was taken away, by the Certainty of the Evidence of a High Tech Science understanding of the Colonization of our Planet in Genesis.

And the High Tech Science of Reproduction of Male and Female Clone Helpmeets.  And a Planetary Noah/Atlantis Flood that destroyed that Evil High Tech Generation like Humans are today.

How interesting would that be?  To have Peace and Equality between Male and Female, and Travel the Universe in Spaceships, Eternally, like the Lord God/Us and Angels? 

And Know ‘God’ was a High Tech Human Peace Species in our Image, like Recorded in Genesis.

With a High Tech Translation of Natural Man’s Written Supernatural Scripture and Myth, most Mysteries of Past Generations of Birth, Death, and Rebirth, could be Accepted with One High Tech Science Understanding, to replace all the Faiths.

High Tech Science was Supernatural to Natural Humans 100 years ago.  Now High Tech seems Natural to the Generations born since the 1930s, and does not seem Godlike.

But Humans today, flying up in the air in the fiery chariots, and Humans putting Human fetus’ in barren females, and Cloning Animals, is not a Supernatural God Mystery for High Tech Humans today.

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It certainly does matter whether Scientology is accepted as a religion in the eyes of the law.  They use deception, intimidation and fear to shake people down.  Scientology is racketeering.  The French are strong enough to call it what it is and prosecute them.  In America this criminal enterprise hides behind legitimizing religious status and takes a whopping tax exemption to boot.

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Raiko commented:

Another prime example that on matter what kind of dangerous group you are and how illegal your activities may be, if you declare yourself religious, you may still demand unwarranted respect without feeling ashamed for doing so. That it’s even debated whether or not it is ‘intolerant’ to investigate the crimes of any religious group, charge and convict them appropriately, or refuse special treatment is a shame.

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I agree with Raiko and Esnyder. Scientologists will likely be claiming religious discrimination but holding them to the same laws regarding fraud and racketeering as any other organization seems like the only sound principle for a secular democracy.  Incidentally, Mafia defenses for years included the claim that the Feds were just persecuting them based on their ethnic heritage.  Scoundrels will take any refuse we allow them.

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8. Theron Sax

I hope that French authorities do not submit to the politically correct approach by moderating their language to describe Scientology as anything other than a religion. Yes this religion commits acts of fraud. How could it be any other way? Religion is an act fraud. What else would you call an organization that makes impossible claims about the services it can provide, accepts money in return for these services and then defaults on said promises by failing to produce anything tangible?  The reason project’s approach should be to maintain a consistent message that the French are prosecuting a religion.

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Scientologists carry forth a long tradition of moral and legal impunity that dates back to the 3rd century; In 319 Constantine passed a law excusing the clergy from paying taxes or serving in the army and in 355 bishops were exempted from ever being tried in secular courts. There was and is an enormous advantage to the ruling class in having the story tellers in their pockets.
There was a time when I fiercely believed in religious freedom but that time has passed; If you can’t keep your idols, alters, and oppressive ideologies inside your house then they should not be tolerated.

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davesnothome: “There was and is an enormous advantage to the ruling class in having the story tellers in their pockets. “

Nearly one of my favorite sayings. It goes like this: The common man believes that religion is true.  The wise man knows that religion is false.  The ruler sees religion as useful.

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